David Wilcock, 10-31-11…"New Fulford Interview Transcript: Old World Order Nearing Defeat", Part 1 of 2… Great Preliminary Information

David has a new article out, and you may go straight there and read it by clicking here. However, I felt this deserved two posts, one for the initial information he presents, and the second, for the Fulford interview transcript (refers to the interview with Sean David Morton).
Given what was reported in the ALW/Tolec interview from yesterday, this information all fits right in.
I may add highlights later, but right now it’s 2 AM and I just want to get this out ASAP.

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New Fulford Interview Transcript: Old World Order Nearing Defeat (Part 1 of 2)
On October 13, 2011, Benjamin Fulford gave another revealing interview. As a public service, we have transcribed it and summarized the greater context we have been sharing here — so these world-defining events will be easier to follow and document as we proceed.
Transcript and Commentary by David Wilcock, New York Times best-selling author of “The Source Field Investigations”
QUITE A REMARKABLE STORY
I have carefully followed the Benjamin Fulford story since he first emerged on the Internet a few years ago — and have interviewed him several times now myself.
It is quite a remarkable tale — wherein a former Asia-Pacific bureau chief for Forbes Magazine stumbles into the dark world of international finance and control, and ends up becoming a key player in opposing it.
Fulford discovered this quasi-governmental group had genocidal plans for humanity — and were siphoning off massive amounts of money from the Japanese economy that could have been used to end poverty and environmental destruction.
He was then contacted by positive Asian secret societies who have been resisting the Old World Order. Now, with an English-speaking Westerner they could trust, these people were able to get the truth out to the Western world.
Since these early days, their alliance has grown dramatically — to the point now that apparently 100 different countries are aligned in their efforts to overthrow the Old World Order and restore peace and prosperity to the people of this planet.
It is not easy for these resistance groups to communicate publicly, due to the extensive use of murder, threats, bribery and blackmail by the Old World Order. As soon as anyone sticks their neck out, their head could easily get chopped off.
Fulford claims to have survived multiple attempts on his life, and still lives to tell this amazing tale of international intrigue.
FULFORD DOESN’T “DO” UFOs
I don’t wish to dishonor or discredit Fulford’s work by bringing up the UFO subject. It is very clear that he wishes to steer clear of it in his own work. However, many people are very interested in this subject, and Fulford has touched on it occasionally.
Fulford has no direct evidence that UFOs exist, and / or are piloted by extraterrestrials. He has never seen one, and it does not appear that he has intensively studied the available literature on the subject.
In many ways, Fulford was essentially an “ordinary guy” working for Forbes as a financial journalist before he stumbled into this world. Clearly, there is so much to know and learn within his own area of concern that he doesn’t have much time to read up on UFOs.
However, Fulford has met with Pentagon sources who claim to have directly worked with gravity-shielding and stargate-type “portal” technology, and who wish to release it to humanity. Fulford has not seen any of this himself, but said he would love it if it were true.
This was one of several ways in which the things Fulford heard fit together very neatly with what I’d already encountered from other insiders.
Fulford did also hear that the Chinese were contacted by ETs in the 1940s who were mistreated by the United States government — apparently in the Roswell crash.
He was also told that this same ET group is apparently still assisting the Chinese — and others — to this very day. I have also had significant corroboration of this from my own ‘insider’ sources.
CHILDHOOD’S END
As a result of being a public figure discussing UFOs since 1996, including appearing in seven episodes of Ancient Aliens on History Channel, I have had numerous ‘insiders’ approach me who work within classified projects to share information.
The conclusions I have made from this body of information are quite vast in scope. We are going through the very last days of our “isolation,” thinking we’re the only intelligent human life out there. This will all be changing sooner than we think.
I have also been closely affiliated with Kerry Cassidy and Bill Ryan of Project Camelot, within the first few months of their development. My deep involvement with Project Camelot gave me potential access to every insider who approached them.
Most of these whistleblowers were captured on videos that are free for everyone to watch — but others could not go public. Some of the key insiders I am in contact with did not speak to Camelot at all.
HENRY DEACON
I have had over 100 hours of discussion with “Henry Deacon,” a Camelot witness who worked within a world so highly classified it would almost have to be called a breakaway civilization, as Rich Dolan has termed it.
The Deacon material was absolutely electrifying, and when I began reading it, I knew Kerry and Bill had found someone who was very genuine — and plugged in at a very high level. There were many correlations with what I had heard, and never published, from others.
At this level, you begin your day by driving to work at a military base somewhere. You sign in and go through three or four increasingly strict security checkpoints before arriving at what is called “The Corridor.”
You walk down a long, round hallway with an elevator at the end. To ordinary workers, it’s just an elevator that will take you up one floor, albeit very slowly — and there’s a stairwell right next to it that does the same thing a lot faster, so why wait?
However, if you are carrying the right identification, then when you step into this metallic, oversized elevator, insert your key into the lock and turn it, the door slowly closes behind you — and when it opens, you’ve now traveled to an entirely different location.
The elevator is literally a portal that uses an instantaneous means of travel to bring you to work — which could be in another underground base on Earth, any one of over 200 large interstellar spacecraft, or a variety of different off-planet bases.
QUITE AN AMAZING STORY
Deacon encountered at least 43 different types of human beings at his job, each of whom had evolved on different worlds. The vast majority of them looked quite similar to you and me, though they could range from two and a half feet tall up to fifteen feet.
The base Henry worked at was located on Mars, and of the 270,000 “personnel” who worked there, only 10,000 were born on or descended from people on Earth.
His job was fairly boring, from a terrestrial perspective — he was essentially a maintenance and problem-solving man for various forms of advanced equipment they were using there.
He was kept tightly contained, never even got to walk the surface of the planet, and spent a lot of time playing ping-pong and watching television.
He didn’t interact with ETs much except in certain meetings, and there were strict guidelines: no idle chatter, no specific questions other than whatever was work-related. This is something you hear again and again with people who have met ETs in these fields.

NOT A FLAKE
I have spent well over 100 hours in conversation with Deacon over the years, and he finally came forward and revealed himself to the public at the Zurich conference in July 2009, during the second half of the late NASA astronaut Dr. Brian O’Leary’s groundbreaking presentation on free energy.
You can access the full two-hour-and-43-minute video of this presentation by scrolling to the bottom of this page:
http://projectcamelot.org/zurich_10-12_July_2009.html
It doesn’t move as quickly as it could, since every statement is translated into German as we go. However, it is still worth watching.
I jumped up on stage with Henry, by his request, when he finally decided to come forward. This exciting and unexpected moment begins at 57:51 in the following video:
[youtube=http://youtu.be/178TJujE5oY&w=500]
Henry has never sold products or attempted to profit from his story in any way, and went into hiding after this and a few other brief public appearances soon afterwards in 2009.
WE CAN CREATE A NEW EARTH
Henry’s most significant statement about the new planet we can create with this knowledge begins at 1:20:22, after a standing ovation. This is followed by some dialogue I have with him about what it is like to meet human ETs, up until the 1:30:00 mark, where Dr. O’Leary continues his remarkable presentation on free energy.
At 1:43:48, Dr. O’Leary asks me for my own take on why cold fusion experiments don’t always work — and ends up provoking an emotional revealing of my own personal experience of the untimely death of Dr. Eugene Mallove.
Two months ago now, Henry finally flew out here to Los Angeles and made a few statements on stage at the Awake and Aware conference, during the panel discussion — but did not go into any real detail about the jobs he used to have, as he is still very concrend about saying too much.
Deacon is one of a very small number of people who were involved in this “breakaway civilization” but have still spoken publicly. Bob Dean is another example, and he also spoke at the Awake and Aware conference and has done free Camelot videos as well.
The “good guys” in the Pentagon have told Fulford they want to release this “portal” technology for the benefit of humanity — and I have heard the same thing as well.
The changes still ahead of us are potentially very exciting — bringing us directly into a Star Trek future, while most of us are still wondering if we will ever send rockets to the Moon again.
EXTRATERRESTRIAL INTERVENTION
One of the most intriguing turns in this whole story has been the apparent intervention of the ETs working with China, Russia, Brazil and India to help the “non-aligned nations” overthrow the Old World Order.
This does not explicitly imply the ETs support China. It merely means they are doing what is best for everyone’s health and well-being on Earth at this time.
In my next update I will again cover all of this with links, but right for now this will just be a pre-emptive summary of what I covered in the “China’s October Surprise” article series.
This new campaign began in October 2010 with a series of highly public, mysterious failures of equipment, and continued to be visible in various forms until mid-November. The war then went “deep black,” affecting underground facilities in painful ways.
The most visible sign of it was when HAARP was used in an attempt to repel some of these attacks — which up until this time were only disabling and / or removing craft and war materiel that could be used to fake an “alien invasion”.
Massive bird and fish deaths were created in the areas where this defense technology was used, beginning around December 31st — and after a short time the use of HAARP had to be stopped, in order to avoid a mass public realization of what was occurring.
A PLAN FOR DISCLOSURE
Very soon after this stunning defeat, in January, Chinese officials then visited the US to discuss a plan for Disclosure — so I was told.
The actual meeting of Hu Jintao with Vice President Biden, and later President Obama, was well-documented and photographed.
We don’t publicly know exactly what they discussed, but apparently this was the key follow-up meeting in the aftermath of these surprising, ET-assisted military strikes.
Most surprisingly, a human ET apparently showed up for the meeting, wearing a brown coat. Apparently Biden was quite shocked and delighted to meet this person, but all photographs of his animated greeting were completely sanitized by the media.
STEP BY STEP
After this meeting, the insider “alphabet soup agencies” all then voted on and approved a formal, step-by-step Disclosure plan, which began to be implemented in February. I heard about all of this before it happened, and was excited to see what would develop.
I was not told enough specifics to know exactly what would happen, but I got very precise time windows of when. Experience taught me to keep my mouth shut and not say anything publicly, as otherwise it could be much less dramatic than what I may have hoped for.
The answer came almost down to the day of when I was told to expect it — from two different well-connected insider sources. First, the FBI released a treasure-trove of new UFO-related documents on the Internet, including one that blatantly revealed the reality of the Roswell crash involving human ETs.
Two weeks later the NSA did the same thing — again, right on time with when I had been told the first “wave” of Disclosure would occur.
I was then told this was a preliminary stage — a “quiet, official Disclosure” to pave the way for a formal, openly-announced event later on. Once this bigger event happened, no one would wonder about it anymore — it would be public and obvious at that point.
FUKUSHIMA
Then, however, came Fukushima. I was warned about it in my dreams in advance — in some detail — and posted my concerns in an update detailing my recovery from a flu virus, entitled “Bouncing Back from Hack Attack.”
As this interview reveals, Fulford had already openly predicted that such an attack against Japan could occur — namely an earthquake that would then set off nuclear reactors. This is exactly what happened — and it significantly added credibility to Fulford’s testimony.
Fulford had said this attack was a punishment to Japan for cutting off the flow of many billions of dollars that had been in place since exploitive no-bid reconstruction contracts were slapped on them after World War II.
This financial cutoff began in 2008 — and was one of the key factors that led to the financial paralysis of many key Old World Order companies in the “Lehman shock” later that year, which had cheated death for too long in the madcap world of derivatives trading.
After Fukushima, the Prime Minister, Heizo Takenaka, apparently did give money to the Old World Order after he was threatened that an additional attack would occur, setting off the Mount Fuji volcano directly outside Tokyo, if he did not comply.
This was covered in some detail in my last interview with Fulford.
THE UNDERGROUND BASES
The story of this extraterrestrial intervention against the Old World Order, and the progress towards Disclosure, seemed to go quiet after Fukushima for the next five months.
However, this all changed on the day my book was released — August 23, 2011. On this very day, the East Coast was rocked by the largest earthquake in a century — and it had very unusual characteristics.
The peculiar properties of this quake were all extremely consistent with what we see after an underground nuclear explosion. It was at a shallow depth, had no buildup but suddenly arrived at maximum intensity, it shook a very large area of the earth for its size, and had very few aftershocks.
This is, and will continue to be for the foreseeable future, the only tangible “proof” we will have to back up what the insiders are telling us occurred below ground. However, if a mass announcement is made, as Fulford is indicating, this may all come out in the open.
I have since spoken with personnel who have visited the damage firsthand. I have no significant reason to doubt what they are telling me, based on the impeccable credibility and trust that has been built up with these people over time.
These strikes have dealt critical, mortal blows to Majestic. It is as if the brains have been removed from the body. It is the greatest single surprise in this entire behind-the-scenes war, since the dawn of the UFO cover-up — and it was still only the first volley.
SYMBOLIC IMPORTANCE
Interestingly, this earthquake also cracked the pyramidion on top of the Washington Monument. Symbolically, this represented the “cracking of the eye” of the Illuminati — indicating their ever-increasingly-imminent downfall.
The Colorado earthquake from barely a day earlier was apparently due to another very major underground facility being wiped out — which was directly connected to the Denver airport.
The facility near Washington, DC was where many government personnel and insiders planned on fleeing to in the event of an “emergency” — such as the public revealing of their culpability in high crimes and misdemeanors.
Apparently, many of them had lavish private quarters in this facility, complete with personal belongings — all of which were wiped out.
Similarly, the facility under the ground in Colorado was massive, and had a great deal of supplies. I’ve now had multiple points of confirmation from every key insider I know that these bases were indeed wiped out on August 22nd and 23rd.
FULFORD CONFIRMS
When the rumors first surfaced that underground facilities had been destroyed, I had no idea if it was true — nor did the insiders. It seemed almost too good to be true that this had all happened on the same day the Source Field book came out.
It also seemed hard to believe that such a massive strike could have occurred against Old World Order bases. Nonetheless, as time went on, various insiders I knew were briefed about what had happened — and over a few weeks of time, the “big picture” came together.
Fulford’s own sources independently corroborated what I had heard. The stories are not exactly the same, as you will read in this interview, but there are many similarities between them — and somewhere in there is likely to be the truth.
I have since heard that no radiation was found in these bases, and the damage is consistent with a 20-fold increase in air pressure that occurred spontaneously.
Later on, audio recordings were recovered from within the bases, revealing that for 24 hours prior to the “explosions,” there were sounds of furniture sliding all over the floor and people yelling and screaming.
It does appear that all the personnel in these bases were “portaled” to a safe location, along with the material they need to survive.
SIX MORE BASES TAKEN OUT
After the first two bases were cleared out, six additional bases were hit around the world. This information also did not appear right away, but took weeks to surface.
Other reports had surfaced from various sources online, of questionable credibility, indicating the number had been anywhere from four to thirteen. No one else online had the figure of six that I had heard.
MANY ADDITIONAL BASES HAVE BEEN TAKEN OUT SINCE THEN
I didn’t find out until mid-October that at the very end of September, a surprisingly large number of additional bases were cleared out.
I was asked not to give the number of how many were affected, but I do have it.
I was very surprised and actually moved to tears when I heard this.
At that moment, I really knew this was rapidly paving the way for some very positive changes in the world. I also felt badly for all the employees who are not being told of the imminent risks they face by continuing to work at these jobs.
In each of these cases, all personnel and materials have been removed from the bases, but the facilities themselves are still intact — there’s just nothing left in them. No furniture, no supplies and no personnel — just totally blank and empty rooms.
Since information doesn’t always come right away, there could very well have been even more bases taken out since the major attack at the end of September — but we will have to find out in time.
MASSIVE HIRING BINGE IN COLORADO
I also had email come in from a woman in Colorado who is on an official, subscription-based job posting service. She was stunned, in the last week, to see a massive number of new job listings appear.
I still have a huge body of data to sort through with this, but it would appear that there is a hiring frenzy going on for just about every position you could think of that would be necessary to run an underground facility in Colorado — including waste management.
The job descriptions describe challenges for the employee, like the ability to live and work for long periods of time alone, without sunlight — not to mention a security clearance.
This has become part of the “big picture” I now need to tie in. It is not direct “proof” or evidence of the destruction of an underground facility — but the timing is extremely interesting in light of the information that is now surfacing from multiple sources.
As tempting as the jobs sounded, our friend did not take the bait. The last thing she wants is to end up disappearing to wherever these people are going to on the other end of the portal — though it is probably a harmless place.
I do believe they will all be safely returned once this whole situation finally clears up for the good. Nonetheless, I was stunned at the sheer size and complexity of the list of suspicious new job postings that just appeared this past week in Colorado.
WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?
According to many credible whistleblowers who came forward in a mass, public event last year, the Old World Order has experienced ETs monitoring and even powering down their nuclear facilities ever since the original Trinity test.
No overtly hostile actions were taken, but it seemed clear that they would be prevented from ever actually using nukes.
It is unfortunate that so many people lived in fear of nuclear war for so long, given that very powerful ETs were protecting Earth and insuring this could never actually happen.
However, the Old World Order were still allowed to perpetrate many elaborate disasters — including, perhaps most notably, 9/11. This led them to believe they could do whatever they wanted and could not be stopped.
This has all changed with the advent of China’s October Surprise — an ET-assisted military campaign that has now dealt critical blows to the Powers that Were, leaving them reeling in agony and unable to defend themselves with any real significance now.
They may still be allowed to create additional small-scale problems for a while longer.
It is important to remember that the ETs have a non-intervention policy. They are not just going to show up in our skies and do all the work for us.
WE HAVE TO FINISH THE JOB OURSELVES
I do believe the ETs are able to intervene up to a point where it becomes actually feasible for the Old World Order to be defeated — and formally charged with their crimes against humanity.
According to Fulford and other sources, just days before the destruction of the first two underground facilities, 57 countries met in international waters, off the island of Monaco, to discuss the rebooting of the world’s financial system.
World leaders were shown photographs, video, maps and blueprints of underground facilities, and told that these were built so that if the Old World Order created a nuclear holocaust on the Earth’s surface, they could live in this breakaway civilization underground.
It was collectively decided, and agreed, that a new financial system would be introduced — backed entirely by solid assets rather than creating zeroes in a computer.
This will effectively destroy much of the corruption now plaguing the existing system, and significantly improve the quality of life for everyone on Earth.
This is only a transitional stage to a system in which money will be completely needless. The difference from how things are now is almost unimaginable.
The detail of explaining this future scenario credibly requires a whole new article — which I have been working on.
INTERESTING CONNECTIONS
One of the main people responsible for this new international economic recovery plan, behind the scenes, has also been in contact with one of my own key insiders.
I’d heard independent chatter about this plan for the last year and a half, and had no idea that this was the same thing Fulford had gotten involved in.
I didn’t even realize that Fulford and my source were talking about the same person and the same plan until I gave my source a detailed summary of what Fulford has been saying.
I was told that the issue was so sensitive that he wouldn’t have told me anything about it at all — but since everything I told him was right on, I “already knew everything,” and there was no harm in confirming that it was all true.
The only discrepancy was that when my insider last heard about it, only 50 countries had signed on. Nonetheless, this was more than two weeks before the final meeting, so it all fit very nicely. According to Fulford, fully 100 countries have now agreed to it.
THINGS ARE GETTING REALLY EXCITING NOW
It is very exciting to see this story taking shape. I highly recommend reading my previous article posts in David’s Blog, here on divinecosmos.com, if you want to chart the unfolding of this intriguing saga and follow up with the links.
I’m still recovering from a nasty flu virus I caught in Arizona, which continued to drag me down when I spoke at the New Life Expo in New York, and almost completely lost my voice that Sunday.

Since then, I’ve been forced to take it easy. My next large article is mostly complete, and will summarize the story up until now with links — but this is a more involved research work.
I continue to speak with the insiders when possible, and track Fulford’s latest updates every Monday morning on his paid blog, benjaminfulford.net, which is well worth the cost of subscription to support this noble cause.
At this point, given how sensitive things are, I consider every significant public statement Fulford makes to be worthy of documentation.