This came up, I noticed at James Gilliland’s FB page, here. Somehow I felt moved to listen, and, even though this is from an earlier time point, it hit some marks (for myself, at least) in this current time point.
Not sure exactly why James posted this now, but perhaps it is connecting to what is “going on” in the current moment.
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https://youtu.be/vSFEVbev2hU