Cryptome.org 7-1-14… Email Exchange between Vocativ.com and Cryptome.org About Snowden Files Release…

For those who wish to read it, this was mentioned in the last post.

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1 July 2014
Vocativ Interviews Cryptome on Snowden Releases
About a third of Cryptome media interviews have never been used. Some interviews have ill intentions, but don’t they all seek asymmetry, take more than give, don’t we all. Thus, this.

From: “Markowitz, Eric” <EMarkowitz[at]vocativ.com>
To: “cryptome[at]earthlink.net” <cryptome[at]earthlink.net>
Subject: Press query – Snowden docs
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 16:55:33 +0000
Good afternoon –
I’m a reporter in New York with Vocativ. I’ll be doing a post about the claim that all Snowden docs will be released in July. As this is pretty bold statement, I’ve listed a few question below. Certainly understand if you cannot comment on some of these.

• Will Cryptome be releasing the documents?
• I see from this conversation that Cryptome is asserting civilians will leak the documents in July­does this mean Cryptome will not be releasing, but be hosting?
• Is Cryptome vetting these documents when/if it does host/upload?
• Which “civilians” are involved?
• Is there a specific reason the documents will be leaking in July?

Just trying to get some clarity here before we publish­my deadline is 5pm ET today.
Feel free to call me at 646.213.3836 if that’s more convenient.
Thanks very much­I appreciate your response.
Best,
Eric Markowitz

To: “Markowitz, Eric” <EMarkowitz[at]vocativ.com>
From: John Young <jya[at]pipeline.com>
Subject: Re: Press query – Snowden docs
Date: 6/30/201, 01:47PM
Hi Eric,
Synopsis:
July is a summitry of anti-spy and pro-spy events, HOPE and Aspen Security Forum. Both sides will be pushing their interests, with dramatic revelations by newsmaking and news breaking speakers. HOPE has lined up Daniel Ellsberg and an unnamed special guest (some claim will be a Snowden team member), along a with a slew of anti-spy speakers.
At Aspen there is a star-studded list of top military and spy officials, defense industry and main stream media parading the need to combat the Snowdens and the WikiLeakers who do not understand the necessity of a luxurious and wasteful natsec and spy warmongering.
We, modestly, will conclude our kick-spy Kickstarter campaign in asynchrony with the Bold Names. To hell with all of the preeners who from all appearances, get togethers, books, public relations and mutual consultation are working together to assure they remain synchronous.
We look forward to continuing to aid and abet release of carefully orchestrated disclosures of sensitive and classified material, even if poorly narrated and whispered to boost imaginative value. To wit, the Snowden documents along with protestations by USG so sweetly combined as sweetheart pacts.
Citizens will continue to leak documents, everybody is a citizen, military, industy, media, ngos, all those millions with access to the forbidden fruit  of a secrecy-demented nation. We will aid and abet them, host and distribute them, without favor, cheap, cheap, cheap.
We do not vet, only informed citizens can vet the tawdry disclosures of secretkeepers — which crescendo in times of crisis, as with the uprising of the resurgent war on terrorism promised by Obama at West Point, to the great pleasure of the usual war is great suspects.
All civilians are involved, they own the place and are accountable for its inhabitants, despite insitutionalized favoritism of race, clan, mob, wealth, poverty, wit and witlessness. All civilians predate on civilians, they are animals too.
July is hot as hell, so a great month to burn through public money  ferociously, battling over which voracious information producer can inflame the newsmaking loins of peace and war: in times of both prepare for both, endlessly elbow bending at the perfidy of the PR competitors.
So, definitely, Snowden documents will be released in July. If the contending parties have their way, all of the documents will be released to kickstart the war on terrorism, in Iraq, in Iran, in North Korea, in the Holy Land, across Africa, Caribbean Drug Sea, the US-Mexican border, and the areas of operations always on alert in DC, Fort Meade and Colorado Springs.
Not for nothing is July the hottest time for political campaigning for patriotism, the 4th sacred, the panels whiskeyed. Hillary is frontrunner for inebriated warmaking, on that the political spectrum agrees. Hic.
 

To: “Markowitz, Eric” <EMarkowitz[at]vocativ.com>
From: John Young <jya[at]pipeline.com>
Subject: Re: Press query – Snowden docs
Date: 6/30/201, 01:51PM
To avoid the slop just sent, our tweets on the July spy festivals are the best account of what we’re up to with Snowden releases, more quotable too.
Regards,
John
 

From: “Markowitz, Eric” <EMarkowitz[at]vocativ.com>
To: John Young <jya[at]pipeline.com>
Subject: Re: Press query – Snowden docs
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 19:40:43 +0000
Thanks for the responses, John. Don’t mean to sound combative here at
all–I value the work you do–but I think your response was left pretty
vague, perhaps intentionally so.
Just a couple of follow-ups–I know you say more Snowden docs will be
published–what role, specifically, will Cryptome have in publishing them?
Also, any context around what the new documents will reveal?
Lastly–any comment on who will be supplying these documents?
Thanks again. Again, my deadline is 5pm ET.
Best,
Eric
 

Sorry to be late.

Just a couple of follow-ups–I know you say more Snowden docs will be published–what role, specifically, will Cryptome have in publishing them?

Same as usual, strip the narrative, publish the images, that is the Snowden docs without the window dressing. While awaiting technical documents which have been almost completely lacking.

Also, any context around what the new documents will reveal?

GG has promised names of US person spied upon. We “hear” — vague, no attribution, what else — technical people are demanding more technical documents needed to combat techniology of spying well beyond those promoted for “public debate.” Those technical docs may be being provided subversively so countermeasures can be devised out of sight of officials, hopefully — who surely suspect more is being released covertly than made public.

Lastly–any comment on who will be supplying these documents?

We “understand” — yes, more vagueness — there are a number of persons holding documents without access, others who have limited access, and some who have full access.
There are trip wires for each to play a role in release(s) depending on circumstances, staged as now, increasingly more, or full. This is common opsec which Snowden is highly trained in, as are comsec experts inside and outside official domains.
Subterfuge is obligatory on all sides. The Snowden media team has done a masterful decoy operation to allow for development of countermeasures under guidance of Snowden and technical and legal wizards.
Question will always remain if the team has been penetrated, once, twice, many times as potential rewards for betrayal increase. This too is considered in opsec planning and execution. Thus the compartmentation of the documents, not only the Snowden media team we know, but by the others we don’t, established before and after the team we know.
Past evidence is that there will spring of leaks of Snowden’s leak, accidental or deliberate.
The NYTimes account today of the NSA Director is a classic subterfuge of dispensing chaff.
Let us know when your report appears.
Regards,
John